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SARAH FERGUSON: According to all the polls, this race is extremely tight. At the same time, I see pollsters everywhere saying it could also lead to a decisive win for Trump or for Harris. How can both things be true?
And then in the middle of the middle of the middle are Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. If the polls say that these races are basically tied or one point one way or another, if the polls had missed by two points, guess what? Those will all tip over in the same direction. Then we get into the next 18 or 19 million. Who are these people? Some of them are the people you describe, genuinely undecided between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. Which to me, is insane, right.
SARAH FERGUSON: And just briefly on that, so the expected big red wave in the midterms that didn't happen was because of turnouts, was because of what you're talking about? So those two constituencies, Democrats used to be the working-class party and there is a problem that comes with that. You have more people, but it is harder to get them to go vote because there is an iron correlation between education and income and voter propensity, how likely are you to vote is highly correlated to age, most of all, but after that, education and income.
So this is an election about, as I say, who can you stomach, who can you bear? What Trump and the Republicans have to be concerned about is, Harris couldn't quite get there. She had a good time reuniting Democrats, bringing them together. We saw her numbers go up by four or five points. It was a convention balance come early and then she stalled, and she couldn't get to the next part.
SARAH FERGUSON: Can you succeed without a polished ground game? Obviously, everyone is a bit down on their 2020 game because it was COVID and there was a lot less door knocking but can a campaign succeed without that highly polished ground game? The problem for Trump this time is these Democrats are just mad as hell. They are just mad as hell at Donald Trump, they are angry about abortion, and they are angry about the situation and they would eat a glass coke bottle to go vote.
My heart is with very much election workers across the country who in those battleground states may face very angry people, may face backlash. It is going to be tough.
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