“In the East we have a very tough, difficult situation. It’s like World War Two,” ZelenskyyUa tells The Economist. “It is a real war, with fire, shelling, rockets, artillery, everything.” Read our interview with Ukraine’s president
At the start of the war we asked you: ‘What is victory?’ And your answer was: ‘Saving as many lives as possible. Because land is good, but it is only territory. Without people it means nothing.’ How has your sense of victory changed?: My attitude towards people has not changed at all. The fact that the people withstood [the invasion] shows that they have a simple truth, and it resides in their family, in their land, in their flag.
Victory will come when there is a feeling that people have endured and kept everything. And people do not want to compromise on territory. Why? The issue is deeper than land. No one wants to have a dialogue with these people who unleashed [the war]. Because the people [have come to] hate. That’s the truth.
We gave away nuclear weapons, exchanged them for security guarantees. Did those guarantees work? No. For Russia’s aggression against the principles of peace, against international law, against many things, against the UN Charter and so on. Why is Ukraine alone paying such a high price? We are grateful to our supporters, but we are the ones who are paying.
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