An MSNBC Host on a 16-Minute Debate With a Republican That Broke Out on Air

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If you think MSNBC treats Democrat and Republican guests differently, you're only half right.

, an unfortunately rare event in cable news. But he’s also found himself in the middle of a cable environment that can promote the same mindless factional politics that he made his career subverting, little by little. We spoke recently about what’s surprised and vexed him about his arrival to cable news, the differences in covering Joe Biden and Donald Trump, and what he’s learned since becoming an American himself just before the breach of the Capitol last Jan. 6.

So, where do you find non-crazy Republicans? They are few and far between these days.I persuaded Dan Crenshaw to come on in March after a row on Twitter. It was a 16-minute conversation. We dropped an ad break live on MSNBC. I thought that was an interesting conversation because, as frustrating as it was—and I think he was wrong on everything he said—it was important to do.

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