In a wide-ranging interview, journalist Annabel Crabb talks about what drives her, making a podcast with Leigh Sales, how growing up in the country shaped her and why she loves to cook.
"Whether it's writing about politics or writing about history, I'm always interested in ways of telling a story in different ways that will engage an audience that's not already paying attention, particularly at a time like this when we've had a lot of instability in politics and a lot of disenchantment.
"It was amazing, even though, at the time, I worked for a newspaper that was feeling the pinch from these disruptive technologies. "In our initial conversations, she pitched to me the idea of Kitchen Cabinet, saying that she thought politicians would be more honest and open if you could get them in an environment where they were relaxed, like a kitchen and over a meal.
"So, I think it's that curiosity, energy, bravery, intelligence that comes together in her and it works."When she was contemplating the ABC job, Annabel Crabb reached out to Leigh Sales for advice."Her brain is second to none. She's an original thinker," says Sales."Nothing annoys me more than when I see people diss her as a lightweight because she likes cooking.
"It just makes me roll my eyes, because there's nothing put on about my interest in cooking and in terms of incorporating it into what I do professionally, in making Kitchen Cabinet, it was a way to tell a story about how politics works through a new medium. While she might make you smile while listening to her broadcast commentary, reading her column or latest tweet, Scott believes her witty style enhances her examination of serious issues and big policy debates."I remember one of the leading CEO's in the country, telling me that his entire attitude to women in the workforce, gender equality, structured sexism in society was transformed by reading The Wife Drought.
Crabb as a child with her father, Mac, and elder brother, James, on the family farm at Two Wells, South Australia. With her mum, Christobel, during filming of an episode of Julia Zemiro's Home Delivery on her hometown of Two Wells.On the farm she learnt to cook from her mum, a former home economics teacher who is a whiz in the kitchen, but Crabb's passion for cooking didn't really emerge until her 30s when she had her own children to feed.
"It's messy, it's maddening, it doesn't always work out, you can't get the person to answer the phone who you need to talk to, you can't quite make the bridge between this point and that point, you can't make it read elegantly but with a cake the steps are there."I don't really have much of a sweet tooth, I made a lot of them for Kitchen Cabinet because I was bringing dessert, but left to my own devices it would be something salty and cheesy every time.
"I'm pretty proud of The Wife Drought because it brought me in touch with a lot of people, people who are still reading it, and who raise it when I meet them and that's a really lovely thing to hear, particularly men who say they read it. "Mostly I don't like going back because all I see is the flaws. Whenever I make a television show, the most excruciating thing is being in the edit and listening to your own stupid voice, time after time, asking questions that dither, God, it's agonizing.
"I guess we just thought it would be fun to do and for a long time neither of us really knew how to read the stats, so we didn't quite realise how many people were listening to it.
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