Guillermo del Toro & Mark Gustafson Talk 'Pinocchio,' Stop-Motion, Easter Eggs, and the Importance of the Father-Son Relationship

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Guillermo del Toro & Mark Gustafson Talk 'Pinocchio,' Stop-Motion, Easter Eggs, and the Importance of the Father-Son Relationship
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We spoke w/ RealGDT and Mark Gustafson about 'Pinocchio,' stop-motion animation, and more.

It’s hard to fully understand or know the reasons why we form an emotional connection to something. From a very early age, I was drawn to stuffed animals and the personalities that I was convinced were inside each of them.

MARK GUSTAFSON: One of our guiding principles was, if we could make it and actually physically produce it, we did that.DEL TORO: The two essential fables that defined my childhood and teenage years were Pinocchio and Frankenstein. That might tell you something about the relationship with my dad. It was the idea that you’re thrown into a world that you barely understand, and you try to make sense of it, as you go.

GUSTAFSON: Pinocchio is the most fantastical element in the film, and we wanted a backdrop that he played against. If everything is magical and crazy and whimsical, then nothing is. He’s that character. He’s otherworldly. DEL TORO: At the risk of sounding like When Harry Met Sally, we blend well and are completely symbiotic. I love Mark. I admire Mark. I’m happy to report that we like each other and we work more seamlessly now than in the beginning. We get along better at the end of the process than ever. We bring different values, but we have the exact same calibration for story. It’s very strange.

DEL TORO: For me, it was vital. I’m 58, and I’m very aware that the only thing that you do in this world is leave something behind for some other people to continue. The rest is immaterial. The rest goes away. But if you made something a little better and that continues after you, that’s incredibly beautiful. Fortunately, the animation movement in my state was started by me and my partner with those cameras.

DEL TORO: The origin is sort of the same for me. It was a combo between Ray Harryhausen and the original King Kong, from Willis O’Brien. I knew they were little, and that made it even more magical because of the toy factor. If you consider the etymology of animation, to animate is not to move a puppet, it’s to infuse it with a soul and to make it live. Harryhausen and King Kong did that or me.

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