Henry Rollins talks tour, loving early Madonna, why Pamela Anderson rules

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Henry Rollins performs at the 9th annual "Home for the Holidays" benefit concert at The Novo on Tuesday, Dec. 10, 2019, in Los Angeles. Creatively, Henry Rollins is a bunch of guys. Fire-breathing frontman with hardcore-punk legends Black Flag and alternative-rock’s Rollins Band. Actor in major film and TV hits like “Heat” and “Sons of Anarchy.” Author of essential reads like his book “Get In The Van,” and an insightful radio-host and talk-show interviewer.

If there a different kind of nerves or butterflies you get before your spoken shows compared to when you were doing shows as a singer with a loud band behind you?No. Um, it’s a more difficult show to do, the talking show, because while the stories, the set, I can’t reinvent it every night. I’ve only got so many stories, so the stories become a certain way, like songs. Beginning, middle, end, you know, this guy falls off the roof, etc.

I’ve been doing the talking shows since 1983, so I would do like a Black Flag tour and then turn right around and go back out on my own. And with the Rollins Band, I would do like 150 band shows, and then turn around and do almost the entire circuit again on my own. Back when I was doing music, I would go back and forth all the time. Or a band tour, like on a night off, I would go do a talking show, so I would hop into both hot pots of water over and over again.

I don’t know what I would tell a musician to do. That’s a really good question. I think if more of those people wanted to do it, they would because I think they’ve seen enough examples, or if they’re kind of like, you know, Tom Petty in stature, like big deal, they’ve already done some VH1 version of that.

And you have to give the audience time to miss you. You can’t keep coming back every two weeks. They’ll get the wrong idea, like the impression is I’m after your money and that’s believe it or not, that’s really not why I’m out here. And so if they thought that, that would be horrifying to me. That would be a failure.

He finally broke in and he wrecked a bunch of stuff, and I confronted him outside and we had like a physical altercation. It was pretty intense, and that became the centerpiece story. So there wasn’t a travel story, there was this crazy, psycho story. All these stories, basically, they start at the beginning of the journey, and as the tour goes on, they start moving through as new material starts coming in.

Oh, well, you know, I couldn’t tell you what a Taylor Swift song sounds like, but I still like all my Van Halen records. But as far as like something that’s big now, I don’t know what Beyonce sounds like, and I don’t listen to country western, except for like people like Hank Williams, so I don’t know.

There was a film that got shot in Australia in 1984 that Nick Cave is in, “Ghosts... of the Civil Dead,” and the director wanted to put me in that film as a cool small part, which would have gotten me out to Australia. And I couldn’t do it because I was on tour. But that would have been cool. And Kurt Sutter, he knows my manager -- their kids go to the same school, it’s kind of like one of those rich guys clubs – and I said the tour’s booked. Like, the logos on the T-shirt. If I cancel, I get sued.He went, “No, no, we just liked this character, we want to milk it. You’re a great bad guy and FX likes you and we just want to hold on to it. But if you gotta go, we’ll just find a way to take you out sooner.” And so he says to the writers, “OK, we’re gonna off him in like ep 11.

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