Penn Badgley on That Big ‘You’ Twist: “He’s Not on an Arc of Redemption”

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Penn Badgley on That Big ‘You’ Twist: “He’s Not on an Arc of Redemption”
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Spoilers ahead: Joe Goldberg used to know what he was, “and now he has no idea,” says Penn Badgley. “He’s worse than ever.”

sits alone in a small tent on the stage as crew and cast bustle around him, but not near him.apologizes for a small burp, blaming her breakfast; a PA deftly handles multiple coffees in two cardboard carriers. Leaning into a winged mirror encircled by light bulbs, Badgley is not looking down, necessarily, but his head seems bowed, and his face is aglow as he closes the mirror’s wings.

Season four, part 2’s opener, episode six, begins with Joe saving Phoebe from an obsessed stalker fan—an ironic twist, considering Joe’s own stalking tendencies. By the end of episode 7, everything comes into focus. Well, for us at least. For Joe, it’s clear his disassociation has reached a fever pitch. While he thought he was acting as a vigilante serial killer hunter, the reality is that he’s been killing people at a speed we haven’t yet seen.

As the first assistant director comes by and tells Badgley he’s got two minutes left, I scramble to wrap up. But I’m still curious about that moment in the mirror. I ask if he has a particular process.

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