Rubina Pabani and Poppy Jay: ‘We’re not sexperts – we’re sex clowns’

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Rubina Pabani and Poppy Jay: ‘We’re not sexperts – we’re sex clowns’
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The candid hosts of the podcast Brown Girls Do It Too tell of the lives behind their searingly honest tales of love, sex and marriage, British South Asian style

. “The female podcast community is much tighter than people think,” says Rubina. “There was that stat the other day that said only 11% of podcasts are hosted by women … everyone’s very supportive.”

At 17, a husband was chosen for her. After they married at 20, Poppy moved into his parents’ house. It didn’t work out: at 23, she moved back into her parents’ home – “And he didn’t come and get me” – before getting divorced at 25. She didn’t speak about this for several years, but does now, as there are “so many Asian women forced to marry someone they don’t want, a cousin, or someone from back home. It is such a normal experience for us. I don’t really even see it as trauma.

How much of yourself can you be when you have all these people to try and satisfy? You can’t ever be yourselfShe also, she says, finds it hard to think of how she treated her sisters when she was young. “My parents literally groomed me into raising my sisters the way they raised me,” she says. “I was their head henchman. It was horrible. I was so strict.

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