This week on the podcast, our friends ivanramen and chrisyingz talk about their latest book. SpecialSauce
: Yeah. It was really fun and rewarding and made me feel like cool in that hipster way.: Especially when you were there. It was the pinnacle of hip.A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius. It's his publishing company.: Yeah, we've talked about this. Even people that didn't have the actual factual events that Dave did of losing their parents, losing their loved ones, that book really defined this zeitgeist and this feeling of being adrift and needing to start something.
I also wanted to make it okay to go deep. I assume that this was true at McSweeney's, too. It's like,"Kenji, you want to write 10,000 words about chocolate chip cookies? Have a ball.": So that was intentional. The other part about me not knowing any better... god damn you Chris... is that it was true. I never held a job long enough to have any of that responsibility. I was terrible at having jobs. The world's worst employee.
But at McSweeney's, I assume Dave Eggers just had that same thing. And maybe it was a combination of, A, not knowing any better, and B, that was his feeling.. He had published a few books and worked in that world and just couldn't stand the systems of it. He tried to be a cartoonist and couldn't get his cartoons in the paper. He was the one who hated gatekeepers. He was the only one who had had any experience with them. I started working there when I was 22.
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