The following is a transcript of an interview with former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates that aired on 'Face the Nation' on Oct. 8, 2023.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And we're now joined by former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates. Good to have you here.FORMER SECRETARY OF DEFENSE ROBERT
Well, my hope is that once the House has a new Speaker, and they turn in the Congress turns to the longer term appropriations process that some kind of compromise will be worked out that includes significant funds for-for Ukraine, but we've sent a terrible signal to to other countries, and not to mention Ukraine itself, but to our allies about whether- whether our commitment can be sustained.
I think Xi Jinping's first question, probably unspoken, is so how- how's it going President Biden? Because it sends the signal, again, as I was just saying that under- that underpins their view that we are in decline. We can't get anything done. We're paralyzed.MARGARET BRENNAN: But I mean, you've said again, and again, in the years that we've spoken to you that you think polarization is the biggest threat to our country and our democracy.
I think that there is an immediate need. And I think that allies and other countries can probably make up some of those shortages for a brief period of time, though what's most important to Ukraine, right along with the artillery shells and ammunition and missiles and so on, is- is the confidence that the support of the democracies in the West, led by the United States, will be there for them, as the President has said, for as long as it takes.
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